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== Quick note related to the external floor indicators ==
== Download links ==
As the landscape cutting issue has been fixed, my buildings should run fine on the [[September 24 2025 build|September 24, 2025 build]]. However, if anything breaks unexpectedly, you might wish to revert to either [[Skyscrapersim 2.0 RC4|RC4]] or [[Skyscrapersim 2.0 RC5|RC5]].
*'''[https://www.mediafire.com/file/9psppj1bika0ra0/Mn10_IP_-_20260611_Full.zip/file 11 June 2026]'''
*[https://www.mediafire.com/file/i0453yrtbjamhwb/Mn10_IP_-_20260513_Full.zip/file 13 May 2026]
*[https://www.mediafire.com/file/w3fg5m2b9nzsh9h/Mn10_IP_-_20251214_Full.zip/file 14 December 2025]
*[https://www.mediafire.com/file/n6nrxbma0ko49ra/Mn10_IP_-_20250908_Full.zip/file 8 September 2025]
*[https://www.mediafire.com/file/nruj7el4j10s2m4/Mn10_IP_-_20250724_Full.zip/file 24 July 2025]
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'''Installation instructions:'''
#Open the downloaded file in your preferred program, then open the folder with the same name as the archive.
#If done correctly, you should see the "[[buildings]]", "[[data]]", and other script folders.
#Select ALL listed folders inside and copy them to your Skyscraper root folder, replacing all files when prompted.


You might have noticed that in [[TROP|certain]] [[MMIC|buildings]], outside floor indicators are present only for the service/freight elevators. I removed such indicators from those places' passenger elevators because in some copies of the simulator from early 2018, external floor indicator disappeared (I remember experiencing this bug when I was working on [[Marketing Square]] in April 2018). However, because this issue was quickly fixed then, the indicators were added again.
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'''Note to everybody:'''
#[[Buildings]] that may resemble real-life places were created ''only'' because they are my favorites.
##Other people also made [[Sears Tower|such]] [[Guy's Hospital|creations]] for the [https://skyscrapersimulatorforum.createaforum.com/buildings/twin-towers/msg5232/#msg5232 same reasons].
##However, if you ''really'' want me to delete a [[building]], please give me a very nice reason, as well as ''an absolute proof'' of your relations to the real place.
#Please (in)directly credit me if you want to take photos/videos of my [[buildings]].
#Do not simply steal my [[screenshots]] regardless of their details. It is simple to press F11 to take one of your own.
##I sincerely apologize for removing certain screenshots some time after having released the related updates.
#Please kindly read the included "Copyright and Credits" before altering any building or content included.
##I would exercise a fair use (no copyright violation intended) for files created by no longer active users.
##If you do not want me to include any files, please PM me with a nice reason, and with a proof of ownership if possible.


Anyways, some buildings (<abbr title="Excluding">excl.</abbr> [[Gen5 Office Tower|mods]]) still lack such indicators on at least one floor (apart from one or more service elevators, if present), so <u>let me share the reason why</u>:
[[User:MelvinMan10|MelvinMan10]] ([[User talk:MelvinMan10|talk]]) 03:55, 22 August 2025 (CDT)
#'''[[Transnational Office Plaza]]:''' This building is simulated to be built during the time when external indicators weren't greatly used in real elevators (at least I still leave the parking elevators' external indicators intact).
#'''[[Marriott Marquis Interchange City]]:''' Intended to be like certain EPL Kone elevators in real world.
#'''[[Skyscraper School (V3)]] (Matrix Building):''' Intended to be like [[Skyscraper School (V3)#DISCLAIMER|the real school building]] which also has outside indicators only for Elevator 7.


However, because I recently added destination dispatch to [[Skydream Tower]] and [[Simulation Tower]], external indicators will not be added to the DD elevators, mocking the appearance of such thing IRL. Note that I will leave the conventional elevators at both places untouched, as I like how the lanterns are placed vertically above doors, like in [[The Spire]].
== The future of this IP ==
I deeply apologize to announce that it will be a very long time before the next release of this IP comes. There are some reasons behind this.
# Whenever I browse to the forum thread (including the former and current ones), I would see "error reports" (whether about missing [[Data#Textures|textures]] or large [[buildings]] stalling/crashing on lower-end computers) and "requests to add or change [[data|files]] (such as in GitHub)" more than "compliments about [[Mn10 IP|my buildings]]."
#* It's fine if users who like my [[buildings]] prefer enjoying them silently, but seeing error or requests almost every day making me feel ''really'' like a bot or an AI who needs to work perfectly every time.
#*I am a real person, '''not a robot or an AI''' who can always follow every single comment. Hence, my IP's releases cannot always be perfect.
# '''Most important:''' I would like to wait for many years until computers get more advanced before continuing on [[Spacetime Plaza]] (more specifically, the hotel zone in the northwestern side of the complex).
#* Let's say that if I manage to complete this complex in June 2027, other users may still not have enough time and money to upgrade their computers by then.
# '''Other important factor:''' I do not want people I know in real life to know about "this hobby" at all, as doing so may cause them to "exploit my skills" for either higher studies (anywhere in the world) or any kind of job (whether paid or not). Only when I reach my early sixties (or late seventies) in the far future can those people know that.
#* To save time and improve realism, it's better to use SketchUp or a similar program for such thing.
#* I always consider [[Skyscraper Wiki:About|Skyscraper Simulator]] as a ''game'', not a professional simulation. Even if there is a "graphical building designer" officially created by eventhorizon in the future, SketchUp will still do better for real life jobs.
#* '''With all of this, I need to implement an isolated environment (with a desktop computer^, optionally with a dedicated graphic card) before my dream of [[Spacetime Plaza]] can come true.'''
#* I still spend time well for important matters in real life, while allocating some days when I can stay alone in my "headquarter" to work on my [[buildings]].
#From #3 above, let's say that when I am sitting idle listening to music, surfing the Internet, or reading a book, my phone would be very silent as if its battery were completely empty. However, when I start working on any building of mine, I would receive a call or a message at that very moment.
#* When this happens, I must switch to "career mode" immediately without talking about this "strange hobby" at all, as people IRL who know this might think that I am crazy.
<small>^TBH, I don't want to buy a new "gaming laptop" just to work on my buildings, and I do not want to run the simulator on a "regular laptop" anymore, as doing so may shorten its life and cause me to lose some important data.</small>


<small>'''Note:''' [[Skyscraper School|Older versions]] of buildings (including [[Driverson City|mods]] and [[Interchange Hospital|discontinued places]]) will not have these indicators added.</small>
I would regularly pack up and make a new release at the forum, but the changelog may not be fully accurate as I cannot keep track of every single change. However, please do not always request me to update GitHub every time, as this is very annoying. Also, please do not request me to "add certain content" to my IP's packages immediately after posting a new release. Please patiently wait for the next one before I can fulfill your wish.


[[User:MelvinMan10|MelvinMan10]] ([[User talk:MelvinMan10|talk]]) 13:44, 26 October 2024 (CDT)
[[User:MelvinMan10|MelvinMan10]] ([[User talk:MelvinMan10|talk]]) 10:10, 1 July 2026 (CDT)


== 27 October 2024 - Additional notes for the next release ==
== Officially separated topics for different matters ==


Because I may unexpectedly update an older building with a new feature, my <abbr title="Including building-specific scripts, as used in both versions of Skyscraper School.">buildings</abbr> will '''no longer have''' the most recent month and year of revision in their filenames. I have modified [[Skyscraper School (V3)]], [[Driverson City|other]] [[SDU|Engine]] [[DRH|Context]] [[ABH|complexes]], and all [[SRH|single]] [[TQCC|building]] [[SDT|projects]] to have only the building name(s) in the file/folder names (or with the format <span style="color:green;">"Building Name (Address).bld"</span> for some places in [[:Category:Tranquility City|Tranquility City]]). The only things with a year label would be scripts commonly shared among many buildings such as "Deco2023" and "[[AutomaticDoor2013]]."
As being treated like an AI or a bot every time is very annoying, and some people who read my topic may just see "error messages" or "missing textures" and don't download* [[Mn10 IP|my buildings]] at all, it's time to separate my IP's topic into two:
*'''Main topic (Building updates and releases):''' [https://skyscrapersimulatorforum.createaforum.com/integration-projects/mn10-integration-project-main-topic/ Mn10 Integration Project - Main topic]
*'''Discussion topic (All other matters):''' [https://skyscrapersimulatorforum.createaforum.com/integration-projects/mn10-integration-project-error-reportingsuggestionsother-matters/ Mn10 Integration Project - Error reporting/suggestions/other matters]


Therefore, ''please'' kindly back up the building files that you have prior to installing any new update, just in case anything goes wrong with the new naming convention. Additionally, because some of my buildings are included as a part of [[City|eventhorizon's city test]], if that test does not load due to my change, you can either:
<small><nowiki>*</nowiki>''Note:'' I am not forcing people to download my releases. If you like other people's [[buildings]] more than mine, go ahead, please just don't repeatedly post the same things in my topics, as it is very annoying. I may just stop updating GitHub and only make releases by uploading to MediaFire as usual if this continues. (Even thought it was just "one person" always asking me to update GitHub, I ''always'' feel like "a bot" that needs to work perfectly whenever seeing such comments.)</small>
*Rename my buildings to match with the name stated in the "[[City]].bld" file, or
*Privately modify your copy of the "[[City]].bld" file, changing the loaded buildings' name in the code to match with mine.


<small>'''Note:''' The only disadvantage with this change would be, if you install any recent version of my IP, and later install [[G1DP]] or any package containing [[buildings]] and [[data]] from many people, [[TLC|any]] [[TROP|building]] [[Westin Tranquility City|that existed]] since the old forum (such as [[Skydream Tower]] and [[Serenity Hospital]]) would be replaced with a copy from the past, unless you choose to <u>compare both files</u> when copying the latter. This however can be remedied if, for example, gooper1 updates G1DP with more recent files from [[Forum|both forums]].</small>
[[User:MelvinMan10|MelvinMan10]] ([[User talk:MelvinMan10|talk]]) 01:34, 8 July 2026 (CDT)
 
[[User:MelvinMan10|MelvinMan10]] ([[User talk:MelvinMan10|talk]]) 05:56, 27 October 2024 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 03:20, 22 July 2026

Download links[edit source]

As the landscape cutting issue has been fixed, my buildings should run fine on the September 24, 2025 build. However, if anything breaks unexpectedly, you might wish to revert to either RC4 or RC5.


Installation instructions:

  1. Open the downloaded file in your preferred program, then open the folder with the same name as the archive.
  2. If done correctly, you should see the "buildings", "data", and other script folders.
  3. Select ALL listed folders inside and copy them to your Skyscraper root folder, replacing all files when prompted.


Note to everybody:

  1. Buildings that may resemble real-life places were created only because they are my favorites.
    1. Other people also made such creations for the same reasons.
    2. However, if you really want me to delete a building, please give me a very nice reason, as well as an absolute proof of your relations to the real place.
  2. Please (in)directly credit me if you want to take photos/videos of my buildings.
  3. Do not simply steal my screenshots regardless of their details. It is simple to press F11 to take one of your own.
    1. I sincerely apologize for removing certain screenshots some time after having released the related updates.
  4. Please kindly read the included "Copyright and Credits" before altering any building or content included.
    1. I would exercise a fair use (no copyright violation intended) for files created by no longer active users.
    2. If you do not want me to include any files, please PM me with a nice reason, and with a proof of ownership if possible.

MelvinMan10 (talk) 03:55, 22 August 2025 (CDT)Reply

The future of this IP[edit source]

I deeply apologize to announce that it will be a very long time before the next release of this IP comes. There are some reasons behind this.

  1. Whenever I browse to the forum thread (including the former and current ones), I would see "error reports" (whether about missing textures or large buildings stalling/crashing on lower-end computers) and "requests to add or change files (such as in GitHub)" more than "compliments about my buildings."
    • It's fine if users who like my buildings prefer enjoying them silently, but seeing error or requests almost every day making me feel really like a bot or an AI who needs to work perfectly every time.
    • I am a real person, not a robot or an AI who can always follow every single comment. Hence, my IP's releases cannot always be perfect.
  2. Most important: I would like to wait for many years until computers get more advanced before continuing on Spacetime Plaza (more specifically, the hotel zone in the northwestern side of the complex).
    • Let's say that if I manage to complete this complex in June 2027, other users may still not have enough time and money to upgrade their computers by then.
  3. Other important factor: I do not want people I know in real life to know about "this hobby" at all, as doing so may cause them to "exploit my skills" for either higher studies (anywhere in the world) or any kind of job (whether paid or not). Only when I reach my early sixties (or late seventies) in the far future can those people know that.
    • To save time and improve realism, it's better to use SketchUp or a similar program for such thing.
    • I always consider Skyscraper Simulator as a game, not a professional simulation. Even if there is a "graphical building designer" officially created by eventhorizon in the future, SketchUp will still do better for real life jobs.
    • With all of this, I need to implement an isolated environment (with a desktop computer^, optionally with a dedicated graphic card) before my dream of Spacetime Plaza can come true.
    • I still spend time well for important matters in real life, while allocating some days when I can stay alone in my "headquarter" to work on my buildings.
  4. From #3 above, let's say that when I am sitting idle listening to music, surfing the Internet, or reading a book, my phone would be very silent as if its battery were completely empty. However, when I start working on any building of mine, I would receive a call or a message at that very moment.
    • When this happens, I must switch to "career mode" immediately without talking about this "strange hobby" at all, as people IRL who know this might think that I am crazy.

^TBH, I don't want to buy a new "gaming laptop" just to work on my buildings, and I do not want to run the simulator on a "regular laptop" anymore, as doing so may shorten its life and cause me to lose some important data.

I would regularly pack up and make a new release at the forum, but the changelog may not be fully accurate as I cannot keep track of every single change. However, please do not always request me to update GitHub every time, as this is very annoying. Also, please do not request me to "add certain content" to my IP's packages immediately after posting a new release. Please patiently wait for the next one before I can fulfill your wish.

MelvinMan10 (talk) 10:10, 1 July 2026 (CDT)Reply

Officially separated topics for different matters[edit source]

As being treated like an AI or a bot every time is very annoying, and some people who read my topic may just see "error messages" or "missing textures" and don't download* my buildings at all, it's time to separate my IP's topic into two:

*Note: I am not forcing people to download my releases. If you like other people's buildings more than mine, go ahead, please just don't repeatedly post the same things in my topics, as it is very annoying. I may just stop updating GitHub and only make releases by uploading to MediaFire as usual if this continues. (Even thought it was just "one person" always asking me to update GitHub, I always feel like "a bot" that needs to work perfectly whenever seeing such comments.)

MelvinMan10 (talk) 01:34, 8 July 2026 (CDT)Reply